Insanity's cresendo

“How often has it happened to me that in the night I dreamt that I found myself in this particular place, that I was dressed and seated near the fire, whilst in reality I was lying undressed in bed! At this moment it does indeed seem to me that it is with eyes awake that I am looking at this paper: that this head which I move is not asleep, that it is deliberately and set purpose that I extend my hand and perceive it: what happens in sleep does not appear so clear nor so distinct as does all this. But in thinking this over I remind myself that on many occasions I have in sleep being deceived by similar illusions, and on dwelling carefully on this reflection I see so manifestly that there are no certain indications by which we may clearly distinguish wakefulness from sleep that I am lost in astonishment. And my astonishment is so great that it is almost capable of persuading me that I now dream.” (Rene Descartes, The First Meditation)

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Rather reminiscent of master Chuang Tzu's butterfly dream, isn't it?

Autor: Kuei_Hsien   |   10.06.2006. u 1:12   |   opcije


well, Descartes posed a problem of so called indistinguishability of dreams and waking experiences. he did't actually raise this kind of metaphysical question, i.e. what's the "real" reality. Am I a butterfly who's dreaming to be what I take myself to be, or rather a human being dreaming to be a butterfly. I think the question has a point, in the context in which we consider for example out-of -body-experiences. people actually report to have a feeling that the realm in which the mind is detached from the body seems more real that "normal", waking life.

Autor: Ataraxia   |   10.06.2006. u 9:40   |   opcije


isn't it basically the same question taken to the extreme? ok, I do agree, the phrasing is as different as the background of the two authors, but other than that...

Autor: Kuei_Hsien   |   10.06.2006. u 13:20   |   opcije


sad mi ježao da nisam učio njemački u školi

Autor: marko_40_ri   |   15.08.2006. u 14:38   |   opcije


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